The BNP might be racist, but are they the only option?

Nick Griffin: Barmy and not helped by his mad eyed look

BBC NEWS | Politics | Griffin complaint over BBC ‘mob’

BNP leader Nick Griffin is to complain to the BBC over his controversial appearance on Question Time, saying he had faced a “lynch mob”.

I have to admit that this was the strangest question time that I have ever seen, and also the most compelling.

I cannot have been the only one wondering what the crazy one-eyed racist was going to do, and then, when it was clear that Gordon Brown was not going to try and block Question Time, what Griffin would do.

Was it a lynch mob? Of course, but then what did Nick Griffin expect? Whether he believes that he was hard done by and it was biased, these were the questions that the public wanted answering.

The Racist

In the end Griffin came across and a slightly bonkers, babbling buffoon. By the end he seemed to become more and more unhinged and was almost frothing at the mouth. Initially the man came across like the unpopular kid at school, desperately trying to get in with the cool gang by laughing at their jokes, hanging around and behaving in a generally awkward and unsettling manner.

He was shaking at the off and looked terrified, but then, this wasn’t the usual working men’s club full of uneducated underclass, this was the big table. His lies, such as denying he said things, when the video footage was clearly available, and deflecting questions, weren’t going to wash here, and that appeared to be what worried him.

It was a poor performance overall and he managed to demonstrate that his moderate stance was a façade, merely hiding his deep seated hatred. The BBC must have been rubbing their hands in glee when they placed him next to black intellectual, Bonnie Greer, a person who, under Griffin’s true White Supremacist views, cannot exist.

That said, despite his views the monster behaved and treated Greer as an equal. The same cannot be said of Greer who thought it appropriate to turn her back on him throughout the programme, clearly under the impression that being disrespectful to someone because of their views, is different from being disrespectful to someone because of their colour. Prejudice is prejudice and it was clearly an ill thought out move on the part of Greer.

In Britain, at least in my day, we were brought up to respect the views of others, even if we disagreed with them, and treating someone with contempt merely because of their views is wrong. I would never do the same to a Global Warming nut.


Youseff Bashir and people like him hate Britain, its culture and all it stands for

Despite all Griffin’s failings, his ravings, his inexplicable fits of laughter and disturbed appearance, had he changed ‘race’ to culture, I would have agreed with most of what he said. Does that make me a racist? Moreover, do I care – no. If protecting my culture upsets others – tough, their culture is no doubt protected elsewhere, mine is not. There is a creeping realisation in Britain, predominately but not exclusively amongst whites, that their culture is being eroded.

In schools Christmas is no longer celebrated, but Divali and Eid are. Anything Christian or traditionally British is deemed either too white, or worse, racist. Which is of course dressed up in buzz words such as divisive, or not inclusive or diverse enough.

Griffin’s remark:

“They must acknowledge that Britain always has been, and must remain – and it’s right that it must remain – a fundamentally British and Christian country based on Western democratic values and not on the eternal values of the Qu’ran.”

Is something that many, many people agree with. I am not a Christian, but the Christian values that this country is based on, or at least were during my youth, have made me the person that I am today, hard working and law abiding. I haven’t moved to another country, I still live in the same country that my ancestors did, so why should those core values change, or indeed why should I need to change?

The point is that I shouldn’t, but we are being brow beaten into accepting other cultures being superior to our own and those that speak out are branded racist xenophobes. The problem is that there is no middle ground, there is no one else tackling these issues other than the BNP, the other parties are running scared as after 50 years of promoting ‘multicultural diversity’ they have no idea what British is anymore and are terrified of upsetting a minority.

As a black man pointed out on the show (demonstrating once again that this isn’t just a ‘white’ or ‘race’ issue), it is because no one wants to tackle immigration that the BNP are becoming more popular. They are the only ones talking of preserving British culture.


Marek Harcar: Despite having numerous convictions for violence he had no trouble getting into Britain to commit murder. Of course now deporting him would breach his human rights!

I have never heard a convincing argument for a multicultural society. Ironically Bonnie Greer pointed out Rome as a multicultural society that flourished, stating that anyone could become a Roman citizen, regardless of race. Which was true, if they were prepared to serve a decade or more in the army. A test of loyalty and dedication that we should perhaps employ in modern Britain, that way, at least the Gurkha’s who seem to be the only people not allowed to settle here, would be allowed to settle here.

Rome eventually fell due to multiculturalism, the advantages gained by the Marius reforms were slowly diluted as more and more cultures were absorbed into the Empire and the army. By the end the Roman army was a pale shadow of its former self, Rome itself had lost many of its ideals, beliefs (adopting Christianity as the official religion for one), culture and military ethos. In the end relying on other hardy and warlike people to do the fighting for them, who then eventually turned on the weak Romans. After all, why continue to fight to protect the weak Roman culture,  when their own was superior?

There are many obvious parallels to be drawn between Rome and modern Britain but no positives that I can see. Baroness Warsi also tried to explain the positives of multiculturalism/immigration stating that ‘Britain should have the brightest and the best here’, sadly for Warsi and the other proponents of multi-ethnic Britain, it is the polar opposite that is actually happening.

We are getting the criminals, the lazy and the dregs of other societies landing here, people whom, if they were British citizens, would not get in anywhere else but here they are most welcome. People like Marek Harcar and Ali Majlat, who, when arrested,  the police in their home nations were gob smacked that they were ever allowed here. So easy is it to come here that Interpol believes that many of Europe’s most wanted criminals are hiding in plain sight in Britain.

Currently almost 20% of all the criminals locked up in British prisons are foreign nationals, and more than 20% of all British murderers are foreign nationals, this ridiculous situation cannot be allowed to continue.

Baroness Warsi and Jack Straw seemed to like the expression, ‘We cannot just pull up the drawbridge..’, well I’d like to know, if they don’t think they should pull it up now with a quarter of all criminals in Britain immigrants, just when they think it would be a good time to do so? When 50% of prisoners are foreign nationals? 80%? Or when the rest of the world decides to use as a huge Alcatraz and walls us all in?

Deporting those that have no business being here, and stopping immigrants from entering this country would cut the crime and murder rates by 20%, who would not think that was a good idea? People like Jack Straw who have round the clock protection and live in areas not affected by crime. Let’s be honest here, immigrants don’t move to the sort of areas that MPs live in, and they are not eligible for their jobs!

Jack ‘Not in the Face’ Straw

Jack Straw: Teary eyed, like his father was at the thought of having to fight those nasty Nazi’s.

I thought that Jack Straw was quite a decent, opened minded bloke, but I found his talk about Churchill and the Nazi’s sickening. He then later brought up the fact that he was from a family of Jewish immigrants, which made it all the more startling that his father had decided to sit out World War II, and leave the fighting to people like my family.

My grandfather’s brother died protecting Jack Straw’s cowardly father, yet my grandfather is a pensioner struggling on the breadline, whilst Straw, never having had to lift a finger to protect his comforts nor make the ultimate sacrifice like so many others, is now sitting pretty. 

It disgusted me that he thought it OK to lecture someone else about the war, when his family did not make the sacrifices that others did, did not do their duty like others did, but reaped more of the benefits than many of the others. He tried to use his family history to point out positives of immigration but all it did was bury the argument, Straw’s family and father were content to take all the benefits of living in Britain, but not fight to defend those freedoms. Which begs the question of whether modern immigrants would follow the Straw example of loyalty.

Because that loyalty could not be relied upon, during the war in which Straw’s dad excused himself, World War II, they rounded up all the Germans in Britain and kept them in prison camps. The Americans did the same with the Japanese. Today, it would be impossible. With Britain likely to get sucked into a war in Pakistan, and with Pakistan the country of origin for most immigrants in Britain, and also most foreign nationals languishing in prison, it could be a security disaster. Indeed so lax are things here, Al Qaeda or the Taliban could very well run their war from Britain, with less fear of getting caught or even deported if they were.

Much as Straw and the others would have us think that these are simply race issues, they are not. It isn’t just a case of black and white, there are a myriad of issues to do with immigration and not least the erosion of our culture and values but also issues of security, stability and crime. The more that politicians dodge this issue, a fact which was very clear on Question Time once again, the more people will move to the BNP.

Our political leaders have basically said that it is their way or the highway, and I’m not for doing it their way.

6 responses to “The BNP might be racist, but are they the only option?

  1. Straw the Communist and Fabian in a position of absolute trust in Britain is folly, intime Britain will see this treason for what it is.

    He’s quick to throw dirt at others yet his own gets buried with a D notice ie paedophile brother then the backroom deals to hush up his sons drug dealing.

    Lastly a reason i’d not give him the time of day, in the 80s Falkland war his speech where he said: “There is nothing worth saving about the English race”
    Recently his draconian measure’s against the Falkland islanders themselves’
    Show this man to be the Wolf in Sheeps clothing that Fabians are.

    I’d vote Satan into power before putting an X next to any Fabian Fascists’ name.

    That rules out the present Government entirely!!

    Some Fascists’ appear to be acceptable in the UK.

    Public private partnership–PFIs = soft Fascism

    Our worst export to America!

    In America today, the increasingly rough-shod violation of constitutional rights by government agents in the name of “protecting the environment” or the “war on drugs” is an indication of how far we are proceeding in this direction.

    Intellectually, fascism is far more dishonest than socialism, which at least has the courage to assert legal ownership of the economy and thus assume the legal responsibility for its functioning.

    Fascism places the responsibility for the economy on business, which is rendered seemingly private, with the facade of private ownership. The result of both socialism and fascism is the same: the destruction of economic freedom, replacing the individual’s choice of how to make a peaceful, honest living with state edicts. Fascism accomplishes this, however, more insidiously.

    Instead of being a straightforward employee of the government, you and I are told that our lives and businesses are still private, while any attempt to act as such is proscribed by a myriad of regulations-until we are trapped and immobilized in Washington’s web.

    We become enmeshed in this web because it has been spun around us so slowly-strand by strand over many years-so slowly that we have barely noticed. We could call this slow spinning of the fascist web “Fabian Fascism.”

    There is alot of talk of Griffin and Farage being placemen, talk that rings true, when there’s an huge open goal and neither dare to put the boot in.

    300 Fabians in Westminster across all parties’ mainly though in what poses to be Labour.
    Rothschild Bankers Fabians and Labour?

    The National Socialists party of Adolf Hitler [ Nazi] didn’t do anything close to the damage Fabians have done to this country.

    News Blackout by Government orders’

    Jack Straw hopefully one day will pay the debt in full, that he owes to Britain and the British people.

    I loath the very sight of him and his fellow Wolves!!

    Fabian Motto- When we strike, we strike hard…………..Be warned!

    Flight or Fight….made my choice!

  2. I know I found you article rather late in the day but one thing did strike me. Your slur against disabled people by calling Mr. Griffin one-eyed.

    There really was no reason to bring his disability into the debate. I think that was very insensitive. After all we do not call Gordon Brown that crazy one-eyed prime minister.

    The lack of one eye is not relevant and rather cruel to those who have this disability.

    • Thanks for the comment F. Frances.

      After all we do not call Gordon Brown that crazy one-eyed prime minister.

      No, quite right, I call him a one eyed Scottish idiot or a one eyed Jock.

      Neither Nick Griffin, nor Gordon Brown are disabled, they are disfigured. What next, a man with a missing little finger is disabled? Sure they don’t have the same depth perception, but I would not count that as a disability in the same way that I would not consider baldness a disability, nor obesity.

      There are real disabilities out there, and considering someone with one eye, or deaf in one ear or missing a finger as disabled trivialises them.

  3. Could not agree with you anymore, Charlie. White Nationalists in America are the same as the BNP. They are the only people willing to talk truthfully about these types of issues.

  4. Dear Charlie – you are as always passionate, sincere and thought-provoking. I do actually think that Nick Griffin is an improvement over past far-right leaders like John Tyndall, and I am glad that he did at least appear on the programme. I am in favour of multiracial societies simply because globalization is a fact of life; multiculturalism is a bit different, and unfortunately the continuing and irrational religious obsessions of many people (especially – I have to say it – the less sophisticated immigrant sections of the population) are a grave threat to what I would call a genuinely liberal society, as 9/11 and 7/7 have proved (I also think that the unspeakable Tony Bliar, with his war on Iraq and support for faith schools, is part of this threat). I can’t remember much of the programme, but Bonnie Greer was on pretty weak ground if she defended multiculturalism by appealing to the ultimate fascist/slave empire of the distant past, Rome. Could you clarify your comments about what Jack Straw said ? I am not sure that the fathers of you and me, good as they were when they were needed to fight in World War 2, were actually doing this for the Jews.

    • Hi Peter, thanks for commenting once again. I may not agree with everything that you say but it is always refreshing and worthwhile reading another viewpoint, especially on topics that you feel strongly about.

      multiculturalism is a bit different, and unfortunately the continuing and irrational religious obsessions of many people (especially – I have to say it – the less sophisticated immigrant sections of the population) are a grave threat to what I would call a genuinely liberal society, as 9/11 and 7/7 have proved

      I agree. I constantly hear that Britain becoming (as if we are not there yet) a multicultural society is in Britain’s best interest and will benefit Britain in the long run, yet no one ever seems to make clear what these benefits are. The watering down of one of the world’s greatest ever civilisations doesn’t seem to me to be beneficial in any way, it certainly wasn’t beneficial long term to the Romans, who in the end lost everything that actually made them Roman.

      I think it it more a case of what George Orwell said:

      “England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution..”

      Certain people in Britain over the past half a century have tried to water down British culture and traditions by encouraging the wholesale importing of other cultures and destroying what has made us unique, our own culture.

      Could you clarify your comments about what Jack Straw said ? I am not sure that the fathers of you and me, good as they were when they were needed to fight in World War 2, were actually doing this for the Jews.

      I can’t remember exactly what Straw said, but he was constantly referring Nick Griffin as a Nazi, which finally made Griffin blurt out the fact about Straw’s father. That moment can be seen here, but there were other remarks throughout the programme.

      They were not doing it for the Jews directly, but indirectly they were protecting them. Had our fathers, and all others, taken the same approach of Jack Straw’s father and decided not to fight, then the Nazi’s would have walked into Britain and promptly rounded up Straw senior and family and shipped them off to a concentration camp. Our fathers would have been quite safe (assuming you’re not Jewish!), but they fought anyway, Straw’s father was content to hide behind better men, and did not fight for his country, his religion or anything else. So that really means that Straw junior should not be using Nazi’s as a stick to beat Nick Griffin with, it is inappropriate, particularly, as Griffin said, his father did his bit to stop the Nazi’s, whereas Straw’s did not.

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