The Two Faces of Britain’s Demise

It ever there was a tale that summed up the sad state of modern Britain, it is the tale of Abu Qatada and Norman Kember.

qatada Abu Qatada arrived in Britain in 1993, having been forced to flee first Kuwait for supporting the Iraqi invasion, and then Jordan for being a nutter. Despite having used a forged passport, Qatada was given asylum in the UK because his warped views may have gotten him in trouble in Jordan, his home country.

This, gentle soul was tried in his absence for his part in terrorist attacks in 1998 and for plotting attacks during the millennium celebrations in his home nation of Jordan. But still he was allowed to remain in this country.

“In February 2001, Abu Qatada was questioned by anti-terrorism police over alleged connections to a German cell.

Officers found the father-of-five in possession of £170,000 cash, including £805 in an envelope labelled “For the Mujahedin in Chechnya” but no charges were brought. “

Generous to a fault then, nearly 200k in cash on him and he sends just 800 quid to his Muslim brothers!

To say that the man is an extremism preacher would be a bit of an understatement. Tapes of his sermons were found in the flat belonging to Mohammed Atta, the leader of the 11th September attacks and he is considered Al Qaeda’s top man in Europe.

He is currently wanted on terrorism charges in Algeria, the US, Belgium, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, and his native Jordan and was meant to be on his way back to Jordan to serve his sentence.

kember Norman Kember is the polar opposite of Abu Qatada. A Christian peace activist who was held hostage in Iraq by the very people that he was trying to help. A conscientious objector, who believes that nothing is ever solved through military action (he was 14 when WWII ended, so not really sure how he came to that conclusion).

Ironically Kember was captured by extremists in Iraq and held hostage.

During his time as a hostage the aforementioned Abu Qatada offered to negotiate for his release. Although the exact terms of any agreement he tried to make have not been released and he did not take part in any negotiations. Despite Qatada’s request for his release and many others from groups throughout the Middle East, Kember was not released.

In the end Mr Kember was rescued by SAS soldiers, after a large and expensive operation to find him. He displayed his gratitude by continuously failing to thank his rescuers and by flatly refusing to testify against his kidnappers.

Despite almost being beheaded, despite seeing first hand the reasons for military actions and intervention and despite being the beneficiary of it, Kember still clings to his belief that military action is wrong in all circumstances.

Former British Army chief Bob Stewart summed up Kember best saying he was a:

“..foolish, albeit well-intentioned, meddling civilian”

But he is far worse than that. You see Qatada was released today on bail and has won his fight against extradition to Jordan as he may not face a fair trial, and guess who has put up his bail security? Norman Kember.

Despite the fact that Qatada played no part in his release, as he was not released but rescued, Kember has seen fit to provide his bail security. Foolish, albeit well-intentioned, meddling civilian doesn’t even come close.

Abu Qatada must be laughing his head off; praising his amazing good fortune and preaching to his brothers about how Britain is ripe for the taking. After all we allow people with false papers to stay, despite their extreme views and then cannot deport them to face trial for the heinous acts that they have committed, just in case his captors are a bit mean to him.

What’s more he knows first hand that no matter how evil people are, no matter what hate they preach, what crimes they have committed and what crimes they are likely to commit, they are plenty of people like Kember falling over themselves to offer the hand of friendship and peace.

Thanks to idiots like Kember, taxpayers are now paying half a million pounds a year to make sure that Qatada is kept in the lap of luxury.

It is rare that I agree with a politician but in this case I do:

“‘This man’s presence is an offence. He should be deported if possible and failing deportation he should be prosecuted. “

Shadow Home Secretary Dominic Grieve

Quite right, Norman Kember should be deported immediately, along with his new friend Abu Qatada.

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5 responses to “The Two Faces of Britain’s Demise

  1. Free to think, free to believe...

    Well, on the other hand – Kember’s been through it all and he’s sticking to his principles…

    He’s even sticking his cash where his mouth is!

    Aba Qatada’s lap of luxury would be called political detention if the british state liked him. Of course we don’t know what Aba would have said in negotiations – he wasn’t allowed to even begin… It would have at least been interesting to know how hard he would have negotiated for Kember. And now Kember is sticking to his guns – at least he won’t kill anyone and given that the police can kill each other on exercise that can only be a good thing.

  2. Well, on the other hand – Kember’s been through it all and he’s sticking to his principles…

    Is that admirable or just stubborn pig headedness?

    He did make quite a bit out of that book about being a hostage, it would be quite fitting if Qatada skipped bail and he lost the lot! After all Qatada is in a lose lose situation. The Government are still trying to get him extradited to Jordan, if that fails it will be the US, France or Algeria.

    Qatada is a terrorist, while it may suit liberty watch and other organisations to claim that trials are unfair etc in Jordan, he is Jordanian, the crimes were committed in Jordan and he should face the justice decided upon by the Jordanian people. Whether that is right or wrong is not for us to decide, Jordan is a sovereign state, and the only true democracy in the Middle East.

    Aba Qatada’s lap of luxury would be called political detention if the british state liked him.

    Good point and whilst I may have some sympathy for him if he had legitimate political grievances or aims, the man is a terrorist and should be either imprisoned for life, handed over to someone else that will imprison him for life, or just plain suicided. If this man is ever allowed to walk free I am sure many innocents will pay for it, and they will most likely be British.

    I don’t agree with indefinite detention, or even the 42 holding of terrorists, but in his case I would make an exception.

  3. Free to think, free to believe...

    Admirable or pig-headed stubbornness?

    Well it reminds me, in a way of the conscientious objectors in WWI who had to go inot no-man’s land for the bodies/wounded – were they admirably brave or just stupid to accept that riskier task? In the end it’s easier to be sympathetic with them than Kember because there’s no question about who they are helping.

    But in this day and age especially given our local history and some cause cebelre that we have – Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and Nelson Mandela – shouldn’t we be aware that when these folk like Qatada are willing to talk all sorts of things may be achieved if they are given merely an ear and see how it goes…

  4. Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and Nelson Mandela

    Thing is, they were in their own countries trying to affect change there. Their agenda was clear, the same cannot be said for Qatada, an asylum seeker. Who knows what his agenda or aims are?

    At the end of the day he isn’t British nor should he be a British problem. These offers to mediate were made when he was in prison, he wasn’t so open to mediate before.

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