This post is from Ignatius Sancho – he repeatedly tried to post this information on Steph’s blog but was abused, gagged and then ridiculed.
Firstly I’d like to thank Charlie for giving me this platform from which to rebut the assertions made by Stefania Harris, over at Steph’s Blog. I was drawn to her site as it appeared to discuss a very pertinent subject – is America ready for a black President, or indeed a woman President? However I found the post itself to be impertinent.
Steph veered off on a bizarre tangent about interracial relationships and marriages, my eyebrow was first raised at this remark:
According to a Gallup Poll on interracial dating in June 2005, 71% of respondents approve of black men dating a white woman, which at first seems progressive, but the same survey also suggested that 34% of white American women claimed to have dated a black man. Forget the fact that this survey was only based on the answers of 1,116 respondents, this is obviously untrue – it’s statistically bullshit!
Untrue? Statistical bullshit? I am not sure how she is able to arrive at such a conclusion from that, it seems quite clear to me, according to the survey 34% of white women have dated a black man in the US. Sounds about right.
However she did not stop there, I began to get the impression that Steph did not approve of interracial relationships, and sadly I was later proved correct. She goes on to claim that marriage figures give a more accurate idea of how many white women date black men, quite sweet really, did she think all white women, meet, fall in love and then marry their one and only boyfriend? She continued her bizarre rant:
In England and Wales, only 1% of all married women have inter-ethnic marriages (less than the number of women who describe themselves as Lesbians) and less than 1 in 1000 married white women is married to a black man.
Firstly, black people only account for 2% of the UK population, that means that whatever percentages we are going to be dealing in they are going to be low. About 3.5% of people in the UK are lesbian women. That means that there are more lesbians in the UK than black people, so her silly remark doesn’t actually make any sense, in fact you could call it “statistically bullshit!”
Marriage isn’t the best indicator of interracial relationships, or any relationships for that matter, as fewer and fewer people are getting married in Britain today. Just as the 2001 census shows once again. So looking at the marriages stats isn’t the best way of determining interracial relationships, particularly for black men.
According to the 2001 census (again!), 50% of black men aged 16 or over were unmarried at the time of the census, 50%! Anyone who knows anything about the black community won’t find that surprising, but it clearly shows that one cannot use marriage stats alone when it comes to the relationships of black men.
So how does one find out just how many black men are in mixed race relationships?
There is plenty of evidence of this, one only has to look. If you live in an area that has black people you will have probably noticed it every day whilst riding the bus, shopping in town or out drinking with friends. You are just as likely in the UK today to see a black man with a white woman than with a black woman. I really cannot understand why Steph hasn’t seen it for herself, where does she live? According to recent statistics 50% of black men have a white partner. That’s right, 50%, half, one in two, i.e. for every pair of black men you see, statistically speaking one of them is in a mixed race relationship! It really cannot be any clearer than that. So her statement:
Fact: interracial relationships are extremely rare.
Is clearly absolute rubbish, black men dating white women is pretty much the norm. Either she has purposely twisted the figures or was confused because of the low percentages. Either reason doesn’t look good for a woman of reputed intelligence.
But it was Stefania Harris’ next remark that really surprised me, this sounded more like it came from some kind of BNP propaganda:
The number of mixed race children proves that very few white women conceive to black men.
It does nothing of the sort, in fact it proves categorically that mixed race relationships are thriving. As I said originally before she altered my comment on her website:
That is woefully inaccurate, in many areas of the UK, mixed race children out number black children in schools.
Anyone with half an eye on the 2001 census would know this, why? Well because 2001 was the first year that mixed race got its very own group on the census. It had to, it is now the third largest ethnic group. As this article shows it will be the largest ethnic minority in just a few years:
On current trends, mixed-race babies will soon outnumber those born to black couples in Britain. The last census showed that people of mixed race make up the third-largest minority group behind Indians and Pakistanis. But with half of them aged 16 or younger, they are the fastest growing. In time, people of mixed race will become Britain’s largest ethnic minority.
To see just how fast it is growing one only needs to look at the 2001 census, isn’t that right Steph? Perhaps you missed that page? Although it has been mentioned before in the press:
In some cities the proportions are even higher. Some 11% of schoolchildren in Lewisham, south London, for example, are mixed.
Precisely as I stated in my original comment on her site, which Steph initially scoffed at, then oddly later removed that remark! I was quite offended by her turn of phrase, “few white women conceive to black men”, what a very odd thing to say, almost as if she believes that black men are infertile, or at least less fertile with white women than white men. Clearly though this is not true, probably some old wives tale that she heard from her mother. The fact that this ethnic group is growing so fast means that there is nothing wrong with the black seed and white wombs are proving fertile ground; much to Steph’s chagrin I am sure.
Her parting shot did not surprise me:
I wouldn’t date a black man because I’m not attracted to them – and that’s probably true for most white women – but a lot of white women, as well as white men have a strong negative reaction towards interracial relationships
She didn’t hide her abhorrence very well, but again I found it a very odd thing to say, “and that’s probably true for most white women” but it isn’t is it? As the statistics show.
As for the negative feelings, I can only assume that she is assuming everyone agrees with her, because the prevalence of mixed race relationships clearly shows that most people don’t mind them, well I am not surprised really, afterall she deletes the comments from anyone who disagrees with her and flatly refuses to acknowledge them so of course she believes her opinions are right, she has nothing else to compare them to.
“Make human nature thy study – wherever thou residest – whatever the religion – or the complexion – study their hearts. – Simplicity, kindness, and charity be thy guard – with these even savages will respect you – and God will bless you.” – Ignatius Sancho
Good advice then and now, I hope you take heed Steph. The Blackman is nothing to fear.

18 responses so far ↓
Ignatius Sancho // January 30, 2008 at 2:22 am |
That’s great, thanks again. It is such a relief to get it off my chest and out there for the world. Hopefully not too many people will be misinformed by that woman and those that are will, god willing, find their way to your site and be put right.
Charlie // January 30, 2008 at 2:35 am |
No problem, I know how frustrating it can be. I meant to mention it earlier but you should check out this bloke: Ewan Rose he really got frustrated with her!
I am sure that there are more of ‘us’ out there and I am going to keep checking Google to see, so you might want to check back occasionally.
Ignatius Sancho // February 1, 2008 at 9:01 pm |
Thank you once again Charlie for allowing me to post here. I have however decided that I would be better placed to fight the misinformation, and in some cases – down right lies, of some against blacks, with a blog of my own.
I have therefore started my blog here:- http://africanus.wordpress.com/
-Africanus
Charlie // February 2, 2008 at 1:16 am |
No problem, I have added you to the blogroll.
b199er // February 18, 2008 at 10:02 pm |
Steph’s argument is flawed.
From a numerical point of view there are around 27 million White women, and say 1 million Black men in the UK (as a 2008 estimate). In this regard, yes there are 27 times as many people that could identify with Hilary’s background than Barack Obama’s background.
Leaving her argument at the point would be ok.
But to go on about White women’s attractions to Black men just throws a Spanner in all of this logic…
At best only 1 in 27 married White women in the, could be married to a Black man, which is 3.7%. That’s best you can do, due to monogamy laws (In reality it’s lower, a lot lower i.e. ethnic-age distribution, institute of marriage etc.) So the other 26 married White women, there’s no way of knowing whether they prefered a Black man, due to them not having the opportunity to pursue such a relationship anyway.
But what we can do is ask the dude who lives in a very Black, White, Asian, and Mixed race area of London, just how many White women with children I see carrying mixed race babies. The answer is more than half. Yes, where I live in London, White women are more likely to have children to Black, Mixed Race or South Asian men (’cause that’s the only way these kids are gonna come out that dark!) than they are to other White guys. And here Whites account for 1/3rd of population.
Charlie // February 19, 2008 at 2:43 am |
Thanks for the comment b199er. I am not sure what Steph’s aim with the article was. She started off with Hilary and Obama, went on into interracial marriages before saying things like ‘interracial relationships are rare’, ‘black men are unattractive to white women’ and that ‘white women rarely conceive to black men’, bizarre!
She claims to live in East London, but says that interracial relationships are rare! Your information further convinces me that she was purposely skewing, or at least ignoring the figures. Particularly as she was deleting any comments that contradicted her and has now closed comments altogether. She has also removed the Top Posts widget, presumably as White women, Black Men was always top.
Evan Parker // March 1, 2008 at 10:25 pm |
Quote:
“The number of mixed race children proves that very few white women conceive to black men”
Don’t forget the number of mixed race babies born to black mothers, its not only bm/wf y’know! I am a mixed race young man with a Jamaican mother and an English father, and i know quite a few people with bf/wm mum and dad, although i realise the majority of interracial relationships are bm/wf.
Charlie // March 3, 2008 at 8:40 pm |
Thanks for the comment Evan. The quote was from another site, Steph’s Blog, and I don’t think she really had idea of what she was talking about.
Free to think, free to believe... // March 4, 2008 at 4:18 pm |
Well, according to the stats as presented here – the majority of ‘white women’ might feel sympathy with Steph’s disgust…. as there is no way to figure out what prejudices we all have…
However her view reminds me of a female colleague who said that fat people were hideous and ugly and in her opinion should not be treated on the NHS. She was young and I was shocked at her prejudice – could you break down the stats into dress sizes for women and chest sizes for men?
That’s a non starter as is saying that I have friends who agree with me… so I must be right…
kranzl // June 1, 2008 at 1:18 pm |
ban the interracial marriages !
i know that black women are ugly as hell but you cannot touch white women !!!
truth // June 16, 2008 at 4:23 am |
The statistics are flawed, a baby born of a white mother is noted down as white unless the mother states otherwise. This means the number of mixed babies is actually much higher. Considering the British population is apparently 90% white this means the only possible way this could happen is if the minority ethnic groups are having multiple children with different white mothers.
Let me congratulate you on your negative contribution to that 7% of the world population which is the white race.
I hope you tell your children some nice stories about white culture because that’s all it’ll be 150 years from now. That is if your children live through the wasteland the UK becomes just like every other “multi cultural” society in history.
Before you even reply to my post, I recommend you do some research into the subject and think beyond what the government and media has forced down your throats.
Charlie // June 16, 2008 at 11:48 pm |
truth,
Thank you for the comment. This isn’t actually my post, but one from Ignatius Sancho so I don’t really know how to respond to your comments.
I have seen estimates that white people will become an ethnic minority in some cities within 30 years. That doesn’t mean that white people will become extinct or anything though.
I am sure that there are many cities in the world where the indigenous population are outnumbered by immigrants.
kossinaa // September 6, 2008 at 10:15 am |
First we must define what “black man” means.If black man means british of carribean origin or a mixed-race then it is pretty true that these groups date almost exclusively whites women.Just look at the black footballers of carribean origin(Defoe,Campbell….).They all are dating white women.But africans date at 99.9% black women.There is no african professional footballer in England in a relation with a white woman.And when they date white women,it has more to do with sorting out their home office business.Many black men of carribean origin are still stuck in the belief that in order to accepted by the mainstream society,you must date a white woman.For them,dating a black woman is like making a dangerous political statement.That is why the carribean community in UK is lagging behind in all respects
pn // November 20, 2008 at 5:29 pm |
It is strange that people assume all mixed race people have a parentage of a white mother/ black father.
Why on earth is this?
Charlie // November 20, 2008 at 9:29 pm |
Thanks for the comment pn,
I think it is down to the statistcs, according to the article 50% of black men have a white partner but only about 10-20% of black women do. So statistically speaking a mixed race person is far more likely to have a black father, rather than a black mother.
pn // November 21, 2008 at 1:43 pm |
why do you think this is?
Charlie // December 1, 2008 at 4:32 pm |
I honestly don’t know. Racism? Cultural taboos? Infidelity?
happly married // March 2, 2009 at 11:30 pm |
My wife is jamaican, we see love as more important than colour and our children appreciate both our backgrounds for their differences and their similarities. I love my wife and her colour means nothing to me as does my wife in return. Why is colour the big issue? Isnt culture the only difference? We are a multi cultural marriage not multi racial.